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pfdietz 19 hours ago [-]
Egypt and the Hittites were now concerned with the rise of Assyria.
All would suffer in the late Bronze Age (LBA) collapse, with the Hittite empire collapsing soon after a string of three drought years about half a century after the treaty. Egypt and Assyria, at least, would persist in truncated form, with the latter rising to new heights of power in the Iron Age.
doebler 19 hours ago [-]
> The country of Egypt and the country of Hatti [Hittite Empire] will be forever in a state of peace.
Wonder how long it lasted?
Edit: turns out it lasted until the Hittite empire collapsed 80 years later, so in a sense indeed "forever".
Good one. Not quite the same thing, but Saint Catherine's Monastery in the Sinai Peninsula claims to hold a covenant specifically guaranteeing their protection, signed by and possibly given to them in person by Muhammad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtiname_of_Muhammad That would make it over 1400 years old. The authenticity is disputed, both whether it's original and whether it named and was given to them specifically, though AFAIU it's well known that Muhammad gave out that type of thing to various groups, for example Yemeni Christians[1]. Nonetheless, it seems to have been honored, albeit sometimes half heartedly, for most of the time since. The ironic thing is the greatest threat to its continuance is the nominally secular Egyptian state, which in its secularity feels less obliged, notwithstanding the motivation to infringe upon the monastery's autonomy principally arises from the Islamic culture and pressure groups.
[1] In the Yemeni case seemingly to forestall the Aksumite/Ethiopian Empire coming to their defense, which they had done pre-Islam when, IIRC, the Christians were slaughtered by the Yemeni Jewish kingdom.
It reads more like a military alliance agreement between kings:
1. Reamasesa-Mai-amana (King of Egypt) and Hattusili (King of Hatti) are best friends forever.
2. If a foreign country invaded one of us, the other one must send his troops.
3. Ditto with civil wars. We help each other.
4. If a high-profile person flees from Egypt or Hatti, send the bastard back.
5. If people flee from Hatti to Egypt, order them back. Do not retaliate against returnees, though. No pulling eyes/tongues. No cutting feet/ears. No destroying wives/houses/kids. Please.
pedrosbmartins 5 hours ago [-]
Number 4 is particularly interesting. Before Hattusili, the Hittite empire was ruled by his nephew, Mursili III. He was deposed by his uncle and exiled, first to Syria then to Egypt. He posed a great threat to Hattusili's rule, so of course the treaty had to include an extradition clause.
JoeAltmaier 18 hours ago [-]
Note the Treaty of Ebla and Abarsal, from about 2350 BCE, exists in scores of clauses on a tablet.
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Razengan 16 hours ago [-]
Somewhat in the similar vein: Irving Finkel reads the Pharaoh's private mail (from the -14th century) :
All would suffer in the late Bronze Age (LBA) collapse, with the Hittite empire collapsing soon after a string of three drought years about half a century after the treaty. Egypt and Assyria, at least, would persist in truncated form, with the latter rising to new heights of power in the Iron Age.
Wonder how long it lasted?
Edit: turns out it lasted until the Hittite empire collapsed 80 years later, so in a sense indeed "forever".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Portuguese_Alliance
[1] In the Yemeni case seemingly to forestall the Aksumite/Ethiopian Empire coming to their defense, which they had done pre-Islam when, IIRC, the Christians were slaughtered by the Yemeni Jewish kingdom.
It reads more like a military alliance agreement between kings:
1. Reamasesa-Mai-amana (King of Egypt) and Hattusili (King of Hatti) are best friends forever.
2. If a foreign country invaded one of us, the other one must send his troops.
3. Ditto with civil wars. We help each other.
4. If a high-profile person flees from Egypt or Hatti, send the bastard back.
5. If people flee from Hatti to Egypt, order them back. Do not retaliate against returnees, though. No pulling eyes/tongues. No cutting feet/ears. No destroying wives/houses/kids. Please.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MZq_ZQDhJA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarna_letters